The Secret Negotiation Power of a strong Network – And how to get started if you hate Networking

Negotiation & Networking – Why?

“Your network is your net worth” they say.

As a negotiator, I see network building as part of my ongoing negotiation pre-work. Every negotiation starts LONG before you enter it, and your personal network and personal brand are pure bargaining power.

Let me explain: The reasons we are often having trouble to hold firm when negotiating your fees or salary is because we don’t having a strong network or strong personal brand – i.e. no strong walkaway point with lots of other opportunities knocking on our door (what negotiators call a “BATNA” – Best Alternative to Negotiated Agreement).

The network that you build, my friend, is negotiation power. In other words: You will be confident to charge what you are worth because you are not coming from a mindset of scarcity where you must convert any client because you don’t know when the next one walks into the door. Rather, having a powerful network and personal brand gives you the confidence to know that if this opportunity doesn’t work out, another one will soon come your way. So you have no issue holding firm at charging for the value you add. BATNA 101!

The stronger your Network, the stronger your Bargaining Power.

TLDR: Network = Bargaining Power

Thus, networking is this month’s topic on Negotiation Nuggets!

“I hate Networking.”

9 out of 10 people will agree with that statement when I ask in my workshops. People hate the notion of networking. Or mostly the way most of us think about networking;

  • It’s awkward, what should I even talk about?
  • It feels sleazy and transactional.
  • Why would this (senior) person even be interested in me?

In our brains, networking has squarely placed itself as this utilitarian, self-focused exercise we have to do because someone told us so.

Reframing is key!

Less than 10% of hands in any given room go up when I ask “Do you like networking?“.

But here is the twist: That percentage increases to over 60-80% when I ask “Do you like to meet people?“.

Ha, interesting!

You might have heard people telling you “Networking is just about making friends.” And they would have been right! In fact, here are five powerful mantras I want you to print and take with you anywhere you go. Believe in these firmly and I promise you will be a new person when you go to networking events, enjoying the people you meet, creating real value and establishing true friendships that serve you as a network for life (and you them!)

Your 5 New Networking Mantras

Mantra 1: “I don‘t want anything from you.”

The reasons networking feels sleazy, transactional and awkward is because we feel like we need to go out and use networking as a way to sell ourselves or our services. STOP that in its tracks! You are not out there to sell anything. Except maybe yourself as an intriguing person to hang out with!

As lawyers, we don’t sell products. In the professional services industry, people buy people. So, all you need to do is be an interesting person who shows they care. You don’t need or want to sell anything!

Mantra 2: “I want to help YOU succeed.”

Not only do you not want anything from them, but you are first and foremost out there to help others succeed. This is counterintuitive at first. Like telling a soccer player to pass the ball to the other team. But hear me out. The best networkers are basically going around doing favours all day long. When I asked a friend of mine who is in charge of expanding the business of a large regional law firm to APAC and the Middle East how he does it, he replied “I am basically going around doing favours and making people happy all day. Recommendation for the best cold cuts in Singapore? Here you go. Best paediatric allergist? Number sent. Need an internship for your son? Let me send an Email. French cheese importer in Saudi? Let me link you up!

Another example that you might find slightly crazy: I am currently working with a large US law firm who is looking for negotiation training in APAC. They like my proposal, but L&D wants to offer their teams multiple trainers as options (having options is always good!). When they came back to me and confided “We haven’t found any other providers who do what you do” I went on to help them research some alternative provides, aka my competitors (!!), offering to help them screen for the best match. What matters to me is that they find their best match. If they are happy, I am happy. And I am memorable. Networking is a game in the long run. First, you need to cultivate relationships that are based on mutual support. And drop the scarcity mindset!

 

“You can get everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want.”

Zig Ziglar

 

Mantra 3: “I am an interesting, interested person.”

When we are young, we often struggle to see why other people might be interested in us. We are quick to believe that people are only interested in other people of the same status.

I was lucky to learn the very opposite very early on. When I was a young student in law school, I helped organize a conference for European Union law. One of the participants was the back then President of the European Court of Justice, Vassilios Skouris. The Dean of my university made sure that President Skouris was constantly paraded in the spotlight. But Vassilios wasn’t that kind of person. I think he secretly hated it. At the final gala dinner, he came to sit next to me with us students at the back of the room. I panicked. What could I possibly say to this guy that he could find interesting? My fear was all wrong! We ended up chatting about his childhood in Greece, his children, and how he made his way from simple upbringings all the way to the ECJ. I learned a lot that day!

When you are young, you give passion. As you get older, you give expertise. That is enough!

Mantra 4: “You are an interesting person.”

Likewise, we need to search for the interesting things that could connect us to the other person. In my business development & brand building workshops, I do an exercise that invites people to write down their unique hobbies and strength. Then they share it with their neighbour. Something incredible happens when people start sharing. More often than not one of them will say in the debrief “I had no idea I had such fascinating colleagues in the office!“. Everyone has something fascinating about them. We just have to offer honest curiosity to bring it out and let them share. And maybe we find some common connection points on the way!

Mantra 5: “We are MEANT to connect.”

They say if you want to go fast go alone, if you want to go far go together. People are meant to connect. We are not islands. Value always comes from collaboration. We are better together.

If you walk up to somebody with a big smile and say “Hey, I don’t believe we’ve met, my name is Claudia” you are basically communicating “Hey, we are meant to meet. I am an interesting person, you are an interesting person, let’s see how we can add value to each other“. Mindset is everything when you connect with others!

Abundance over scarcity, giving over taking, listening over speaking and you will radiate all the right vibes for people to like you instantly.

Apply these 5 mantras rigorously, and you will see the bad smell of networking completely disappearing!

Seek to add value and seek to make connections and you will set yourself up for a network beyond anything you’ve ever thought imaginable!

To your success!

Dr. Claudia

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Give yourself negotiation power with Limit Price & BATNA – Part 1/3

Today you will learn: Setting your Limit Price – Calculating your BATNA – Knowing the exact point when to leave a negotiation (with video example for calculating your BATNA in a court case).


There are 2 key forms of negotiation:

1) Collaborative Negotiation (aka Harvard win-win)

2) Competitive / Distributive Negotiation (aka Bargaining)

The best negotiators master both forms and know how to integrate them by first growing the pie with win-win strategies and then securing the bigger piece of the pie with distributive negotiation strategies.

This month I want to focus on how you secure the biggest piece of the pie and share the three key numbersyou need to prepare for any monetary (=distributive) negotiation.

  1. Limit price
  2. Goal Price
  3. Opener

These numbers are so key, that the GC of a Fortune 500 company I work with tells his managers to not even knock on his door before they have them hashed out. And it takes them a day, sometimes two, to do just that. So take good note!

Let’s dive in and talk about the first one, the Limit Price.

Your Limit Price is best determined by your BATNA (Best Alternative to Negotiated Agreement). BATNA is the answer to the question “What will I do if this deal/negotiation tanks?” This needs to be specific! Not just “I’ll just get another job” or “We will acquire another business” or “We will just take it to court if we cannot settle” but which job, for how much, when, under what terms, what is a likely outcome in court?

This always needs to be a specific number! Yes, even and especially going to court! The below video excerpt from our Master Negotiator Course shows how to calculate your BATNA in a business dispute lawsuit.

The bottom line is: The more specific your alternative and the more you work on improving it, the greater your negotiation power.

Knowing your BATNA is critical because it is your walkaway point. Too many times, people overpay or undercharge because in the heat of the negotiation, due to poor preparation, or due to the length of the negotiations (sunk cost principle) they do not realize they would have gotten a better deal somewhere else.

Sometimes the best deal is no deal. You have to know where that walkaway point is for your situation to apply it, regardless of whether this is a settlement negotiation, your salary, a new home or any other purchase or business contract.

Improve your BATNA – give yourself negotiation power!

Keep Negotiating!

Dr. Claudia

Your Negotiation Whisperer

Next Topic: Goal Price. How “let’s do the best we can” NEVER gets you the best you can – setting ambitious goals in negotiations.


PS: Book recommendation for German lawyers who want to dive deeper: Jörg Risse: Prozessrisikoanalyse: Erfolgsaussichten vor Gericht bestimmen. Highly recommend!

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Speak Early, Anchor High – The biggest hidden influence in any Negotiation

Love it or hate it, we are all negotiators. From the agenda to the meeting outcome, the task distribution to the deal closing, the new house or the old question of who brings out the trash, we negotiate all day every day. Some things are tiny, while others change the course of our whole career or a client’s business opportunity.

Most people I ask say that they often find negotiations uncomfortable. So for the past 10 years, I have created trips and tricks that boost performance and confidence for everyone in every negotiation, and taught them to over 5,000 people around the world.

This newsletter is for everyone who wants bite-sized reminders and practical examples of the small things we can do to increase our negotiation performance every day. Get better results for ourselves, our clients, and our businesses.

Here is my first tip: Set expectations early in a negotiation.

What happens early in a negotiation matters. The chance to make a first offer or set the framework or conditions is powerful. Much more powerful than most people realize.

The first set of ideas, asks and thoughts in any conversation can have a disproportionately high influence on the rest of the negotiation.

This is called the “anchoring effect” and proven in studies more often than anyone can count.

The seller opens (and they start high) – the price is higher. The buyer opens (they start low) – the price is lower. The employer makes the first offer (lower) – the salary will be lower. The employee makes the first offer (hopefully higher!) – the salary will be higher. These are the classic findings that get replicated time after time.

Some of the studies are hilarious, showing the utter irony of how even the smartest of brains get anchored by the most random numbers. I love this one where MIT students get influenced in their bidding prices at an auction by their social security numbers (people with high social security numbers paid up to 346% more!!).

We often avoid saying our number or setting out our expectations first for fear that they may be misplaced, too demanding, too little demanding and anything in between.

But research is clear: If you want to make a better deal, come prepared and go first!

How do you usually handle your big and small negotiations? Do you wait for the other side or do you go first?

Keep Negotiating!

Dr. Claudia

Your Negotiation Whisperer

PS: This also works with kids! Have you ever asked them what they want for dessert and they say “5 cookies”? You were prepared to give one but now you are negotiating and are unlikely to get away under 3 – and they are still unhappy because they expected 5! What would have happened if you had offered one scoop of ice cream before they got to ask for a whole Mc Sundae with sauce and sprinkles and wafers? Even if you then gave in to an additional bit of chocolate sprinkle on that scoop they would have felt it was a big win. Anchoring also influences satisfaction!

Know your numbers – or fall prey to your emotions

When preparing for a monetary negotiation, savvy negotiators know that they should have 3 numbers prepared.

  • Their reservation price: to know what will be the utmost maximum they will accept or offer;
  • Their goal price: to know what they would like to achieve, and
  • Their opening price: to avoid being anchored (but rather use that effect themselves when suitable).

This story of one of our Master Negotiator students is about the critical importance of the first one, your reservation price and how setting it correctly can help you save your deal – and maybe your house.


 

Joe and Alice* were looking for a piece of land in a capital of a European country to build their family home. The couple knew from their own experience and research, that there were almost no pieces of land available for construction of family houses in the city. And the smaller they were, the more expensive. Almost to the extent that usually, only project developers could afford them.

One day, the couple spotted a piece of land which was just perfect. It was located in a very nice living district, close to a hospital, near one of the best shopping centres of the city and having large open green grounds all around. The property was also close to one of the schools Alice’s children would enter, since she was a civil servant. It was a really rare fine.

The plot was priced at € 200k so the couple prepared to offer an initial € 190k and use the extra €40k they were ready to pay on top of that to negotiate their offer in four successive bids adding amounts of €15k, €10k, €8k and €8k in that order (a strategy they learned in the Master Negotiator Course to send clear signals of having reached the limits of how far one could go to communicate a consistent message and satisfy the negotiation partner for having made the best deal).

 

The game was on.

However, before Joe and Alice could even make their first move, the landlord disclosed that he had already received an offer for € 210k, eliciting Joe and Alice’s first offer to surge to an immediate €220k, which they willingly gave. Later that week, the seller again came back with a counter offer of another buyer for € 230k, so Joe and Alice decided to top that by increasing to €238k, conditioned on the landlord to come back to them and give them the possibility to make a new counter offer if theirs be superseded.

 

And he did come back.

One week later, the landlord had a new offer for €250k. He said he was ready to close the deal for that price, but not before giving them the chance to react. Emotionally driven, Alice and Joe replied saying their last offer was €251k.

They knew they could go higher but they decided to risk the deal for a better price. They wanted the landlord to believe he had reached the price of his land. Also, the extra €1K was intended to put the landlord at bay. Would he beg Alice and Joe’s competitors to improve by a seemingly ridiculous amount of €1k? Their idea was to force him to choose between two almost identical offers. Theirs’s being € 1k higher.

The following day, a Sunday, the landlord replied offering Joe and Alice to match a new offer for €260k. He said he was giving Joe and Alice the opportunity to close the deal before anyone else.

The couple answered with thanks, firmly stating that they would not go as high as €260k. On the contrary, they added that they could only uphold their offer for €251k until next Wednesday, trying to hint to a Best Alternative to Negotiation Agreement (BATNA) of their own on the horizon.

By the following Thursday, Alice and Joe had received no news from the seller.

As they learned a little later on, Alice and Joe’s competitors did succeed at securing the property at the €260k pitch – only €9k more than the couple was willing to offer, or a mere €50 or so in difference on their monthly mortgage installments.

 

How did it go?

Imagine now. If you were the couple in this situation, would you be happy with how the negotiation unfolded? With putting an end to this bidding war, but losing this unique piece of land in a city where hardly any land is available? And instead now feel like “damn it, we should have gone for the  €260 deal, it would have cost us hardly any more money”.

I assume you would regret it.

 

What can be learned from this?

It is always insights that are easy to blame, but hard to digest, when we dissect our mistakes in looking at our actions in hindsight. But as lifelong negotiators, it is important to look at them, learn from them, and share them with our fellow negotiators so they can learn from them too.

The regrets of this negotiation come down to one simple principle: Know your true reservation price.

Even for experienced negotiators it is all too easy to set a random reservation price, just to have done “the homework” of setting one. For your next negotiation though, make sure it passes these two tests  in order to make sure you make a truly informed  decision for yourself:

 

  • First, is it really your reservation price? In this case, is the number you have set to be your maximum really THE maximum you would be willing to pay? Joe and Alice initially set their reservation price at €240k, but later discovered they were willing and financially able to pay more, with only a minor difference to their overall budget.
  • Second, does it correspond to your BATNA? As in the above story, this small European capital had as good as no plots for building a house in the city center. So yes, the seller could have asked for what he wanted, and yes, as a buyer you were subject to a bidding war that you could chose to follow or dismiss. But would you get an opportunity for a piece of land like that again? How soon, and at what price? And would you care that you didn’t? That was your BATNA. Probably it was not a good one. So it depended on how much you wanted that piece of land or if maybe, you would have considered moving to the countryside or another city.

 

Takeaways:

 

  • Always spend sufficient time to analyze your true walk-away point. If you don’t do it in the beginning, sit back down at the drawing board and evaluate as you get deeper into the negotiation.
  • This is for one specific reason: Emotions will take over your negotiation if your brain is not equipped with a firm strategy and a clear and reasoned walk away point. This is especially true in a situation, where you are on the bidding side of an auction, where you run either a risk of bidding more than you expected (and often worse than your BATNA, the more frequent scenario) or, as in this case, end up offering less than you would have been willing to pay to end the pain of the bidding war you find yourself in.

 

Thank you to our students for sharing this valuable lesson with the Negotiation Academy Community.

All the best for your next negotiation!

Claudia

 

*Joe and Alice are not their real names and have been changed for privacy until the new plot is secured successfully 🙂

 

 

 

Negotiating Your Way Through Law School

Winning Entry of the Master Negotiator Writing Competition
by Sayanti Chatterjee, April 2018

Being a student in a law school is an enlightening experience in many ways. Completing six assignments per semester in addition to viva-voces, moots and six academic credits, further maintaining a seventy per-cent class attendance reduces every goody two-shoes into begging the professors for project extensions and extra attendance. Following in the footsteps of my seniors, I quickly realized this inevitable axiom of law school life and what a big part the art of negotiation was going to play in such a scenario.

The first time I needed attendance, my all knowing batch mates advised me to go beg the course teacher. It would be quick and easy, they said, having done it multiple times before. You’d just have to swallow your pride and keep at it.

“Please sir, if you can give me the attendance for two days only…?”

“Two days! You’re such a good student; I didn’t expect this from you.”

Turns out, being a good student has its disadvantages, coupled with the fear of losing that reputation in a stroke of bad decisions. In addition to not getting attendance, I also had to deal with constant glares from the professor in question for almost a week!

A couple of days ago when I was doing the Introductory Course on Negotiation, the airport check-in example made me realise that instead of seeing the situation as a negotiating opportunity, I had simply put forth my demands and begged the professor to accept them without giving any reasons for the same or looking at it from his point of view.

Even after swearing in the name of all the gods I believed in that I wouldn’t repeat such an experience, the opportunity presented itself soon enough. This time I was much more careful and my initial hesitation was overcome only after I saw a fellow comrade (yes, we law students must stick together) get the job done. I observed him very minutely, at the risk of looking like a creepy stalker, and discovered that instead of going forth and stiffly asking for what he wanted, he went and opened his conversation with the weather! Only after he had spent a good amount of time talking about the rain, our multiple assignments and something about his previous win in a moot court competition, did he gently introduce the topic of a project extension for two days, and that too with a carefully crafted sheepish smile (anyone who has ever seen lawyers would agree that ‘sheepish’ and ‘lawyer’ don’t go together). That guy was a genius in my eyes, adding new elements to the initial begging dynamic: non-verbal communication and small talk.

Imagine my surprise when after a half hour of hankering about the weather and other varieties of useless small talk, all I get is:

“I’m sorry; I can’t grant you an extension.”

“But please ma’am, just this once…”

“I’m sorry dear, but you try your best.  I’m sure you’ll finish something within time.”

Instead of getting an extension, all I had were half-hearted encouragements from the professor and countless jibes from my friends. My dreams of becoming a suave advocate, whose convincing power is worth her weight in gold, were quickly turning into mush. So I took a step back and started analysing what went wrong.

One of the first questions that came to my mind was whether this was an appropriate situation for negotiation. Every example of negotiation is related to the business world, and maybe when you wanted something and were willing to get into a bargain. But how does one even bargain with a professor? I had to know what the professor wanted and why; in negotiation terms, the position and the interests had to be made clear. What did I have to offer as an alternative?  What benefit would she walk away with after granting me what I wanted?

Then there was the importance of choosing the right words with which to approach the problem. In my hurry, I had forgotten to walk my way through the conversation and had made a rookie mistake by jumping straight to the point, even after all the small talk. A careful analysis of my friend’s tactics made me realise that he may have started with the weather, but he moved on to discuss the pressure of completing multiple assignments along with an ongoing research paper upon which he wanted the professor’s views, which drew the professor’s sympathy on his side. By further touching on his moot court win and the excellent quality and on-time submission of his previous assignments, he was making a subtle bargain: ‘give me some more time and I’ll hand over a top notch assignment which will save you the pain of meticulously looking for mistakes, and I probably won’t repeat this’. And that’s the gain the professor saw.

Apart from the power of small talk, there was the timing of introducing his demand, along with the use of non-verbal clues. By easing in the subject right after he set the ground with his general conversation, the professor was more inclined to help since she already understood his interests and truly believed that he’d taken her interests into consideration too. Building some credibility before making a demand is advisable, but seeing every demand as an opportunity for negotiating and ultimately giving value to both sides instead of a one-sided give and take, is what seals the deal.  A big smile always helps, along with a light and easy posture. Showing any type of nervousness always gives the other side too much power to influence the outcome, which I believe is one of my problems, since I’m too nervous to clearly consider my options and just end up accepting their denials at face value. But keeping it light keeps both sides alert to the other’s suggestions and facilitates discussion.

Most importantly, there was goal setting. I went in to just ‘see what I can do’ and ‘try my best’, basically with a half-hearted motivation and no clear outcome in mind. I knew I wanted an extension and why I wanted it, but I didn’t know how much nor why the other party would want it too. I knew how to convince, just not what to convince them to do. My friend on the other hand was pretty clear. He needed a two day extension, no more no less. He was willing to compromise, but also pointed out that he wouldn’t be able to complete it properly if he wasn’t given a minimum of two days. The professor saw his logic and saw it best to allow it for the sake of an academic accomplishment. Further, his attitude clearly indicated that he was fully prepared to calmly sit there in her office until he got what he wanted.

Last January, we had a Mediation Boot Camp conducted by Mr. Tom Valenti, who gave an example which stuck with me. He explained that when there’s a deadlock between parties, ask one party to cut the cake equally and the other to choose his piece. That’s what mothers with errant siblings do, and that’s what works most times with warring parties too. But that’s mediation; in negotiation you also have to convince the other side that both of us got the cherry.

So I tried out what I’d learnt a third time in hopes of finding some respite from my relentless schedule. I went in one fine Saturday morning, smartly dressed and with as much confidence and ease as I could muster, to one of my law professors. I started off with doubts about my previous assignments, spent quite some time on it to truly convince him that I cared about grades (I truly do, but then I also have to convince my friends that I don’t), and moved on to doubts about the upcoming assignment. We discussed this in quite some detail before I introduced, in an offhanded manner as if I couldn’t care less, my main purpose.

“That’s true sir, I’m excited to do more research on this topic. I might even take it up separately as next month’s project.”

“You can do that Ms. Chatterjee; it’ll help for your exams too.”

“But I may not be able to incorporate it into this assignment. The submission is this Thursday.”

“Oh…It would’ve been great if you could.”

“I’ll try to; however I might need a day or two more to round it off nicely and make it fit in. It’ll add to the overall value of the assignment, and I might even be able to send it to some journal, if you’d permit it.”

“Of course, that’s not an issue. So, do you think you’d be able to do it by Friday then?”

“It’ll be helpful sir, if I can have the weekend too. The assignment will be ready Monday morning sharp at 10 on your desk.”

“Okay then, I’ll extend it till Monday. I expect a good assignment.”

“You won’t be disappointed sir. Thank you very much.”

Now I won’t go so far as to claim that this is how a Master Negotiator does it, but I am mighty proud of myself. It’s a sign of improvement that I can point out the mistakes that I made that day and am currently in the process of continuous self-improvement. The adults in our life may claim that the real world starts outside university, however I feel this is where we must prepare for it and make as many mistakes and learn as much as we can in this controlled environment before we are thrown out in the open sea at the mercy of God.

In the traditional sense, lawyers were seen as problem-creators, the reason why the vast majority of the Indian population still avoid court battles. But in this quagmire, it is a refreshing opportunity to become one of the problem-solvers, and what better place to practice that skill than in university. Whether it is a business merger the size of the Vodafone-Idea Merger[1] or a simple question of keeping the light switched on between roommates, negotiation helps every step of the way.

I won’t conclude with a generalised statement about how negotiation has helped lawyers, I can’t claim to know that. Personally speaking, it has given me the power to move beyond emotive speaking skills, rote memorisation of laws, courtroom drama and legal battles, into the territory of really touching lives and solving problems. Instead of simply arguing a case in a one-sided manner and blatantly attacking the other side, I now consider both sides and weigh the pros and cons of every statement I make, taking into account the feelings and interests of all parties concerned. In many areas, that has made me a better person overall, now that I understand the demands of my contending parties, which makes my arguments in moots better rounded and acceptable to the judge. But best of all is the feeling of accomplishment I get after every successful negotiation, ensuring the satisfaction of the parties, just like I had felt on the bright Monday morning when I handed in a well made assignment, making sure my professor didn’t regret the extension. For me, that’s what the art of negotiation is all about.

[1] Economic Times Bureau, NCLT approves Idea-Vodafone merger, THE ECONOMIC TIMES (Jan. 13, 2018, 07:17 AM IST), https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/company/corporate-trends/nclt-approves-idea-vodafone-merger/articleshow/62474431.cms

 

A student of B.A.LL.B. (Hons.) at Hidayatullah National Law University, Sayanti loves law with a passion. Apart from academics, she is an ardent traveller, reader, movie buff and food fanatic who dreams of touring Europe one day and trying out all the various cuisines. An entrepreneur at heart, she also runs two blogs and hopes to run her own practice someday.